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The meeting focused on defining empathy and its practical applications. Edwin Rutsch discussed using AI to enhance the empathy project, including creating definitions and quotes. Jodie Jenson shared her busy schedule with classes and sports camp. Daniel Hirtz completed his book "Our Song" and highlighted AI's role in co-creating ideas. They explored the cognitive-affective empathy model, emphasizing the need for clear definitions and practical applications. The discussion included the importance of empathy circles for fostering universal empathy and addressing political and academic criticisms. They planned to develop an empathy training course, considering the needs and fears of potential participants.
[ ] @Edwin Rutsch - Present an overview of the academic cognitive-affective model of empathy and how it relates to the holistic empathy framework.
[ ] Share the book manuscript "Our Song of Oneness" and discuss potential connections to the empathy project.
[ ] Create an outline for the empathy training course.
Edwin Rutsch mentions his busy schedule in Sacramento, helping his mother who has dementia.
Jodie Jenson shares her busy schedule with classes and sports camp, and her kids being out of school.
Daniel Hirtz talks about his busy schedule with gigs and writing his book "Our Song or Singing Our Song of Oneness."
Daniel shares his experience with Cloud AI and its role in co-creating ideas for his book.
Edwin Rutsch discusses the use of AI in the empathy project, including creating definitions and quotes.
Jodie Jenson inquires about the platform used for generating eight-second videos, which Edwin explains is Gemini.
Edwin provides details on how to sign up for Gemini Pro and the benefits of using it for video creation.
Jodie and Edwin discuss the potential of using AI-generated videos for educational purposes.
Edwin Rutsch proposes the idea of an ongoing training program for the empathy project.
Jodie Jenson suggests including an intake survey to gather participants' understanding of empathy.
Edwin and Jodie discuss the benefits of having a cohort for the training program to facilitate discussions and refine the content.
They consider the possibility of creating modules for self-paced learning and the importance of addressing participants' fears and needs.
Jodie Jenson shares a framework for defining the target audience, including their fears, beliefs, and motivations.
Edwin Rutsch emphasizes the need for a clear definition of empathy to address criticisms from both political and academic perspectives.
Daniel Hirtz highlights the importance of practicing empathy and the potential benefits for helping professions.
They discuss the challenges of marketing the training program and the need to simplify the concept of empathy.
Edwin Rutsch and Jodie Jenson discuss the criticisms of empathy from both the political right and academia.
Jodie shares insights from her research on political bias in psychology, highlighting the lack of clear terminology and quantifiability in empathy studies.
They explore the moral foundations theory by Jonathan Haidt and its implications for understanding the empathy gap between liberals and conservatives.
Edwin and Jodie emphasize the importance of clear definitions and practical applications in addressing these criticisms.
Daniel Hirtz shares his perspective on the importance of practicing empathy and the simplicity of the empathy circle method.
They discuss the challenges of overcomplicating empathy with academic definitions and the need for practical, accessible methods.
Edwin Rutsch and Daniel highlight the benefits of the empathy circle practice in fostering universal empathy and addressing different value systems.
They consider the potential of the empathy circle to bridge the gap between academic theory and practical application.
Edwin Rutsch assigns Jodie Jenson the task of creating an outline for the empathy training course.
They discuss the importance of understanding the target audience's needs and fears in designing the course.
Jodie shares her busy schedule and the need to balance academic work with the empathy project.
They agree to continue working on the course outline and present it in the next meeting.
Edwin Rutsch emphasizes the importance of continuous improvement and design in the empathy project.
Jodie Jenson and Daniel Hirtz express their commitment to the project and their willingness to contribute.
They plan to record Edwin's presentation next week and discuss the course outline in the following meeting.
They acknowledge the challenges of balancing busy schedules and the importance of staying focused on the project's goals.
A. I’m playing with the Google Veo 3 AI video generator. A couple are attached. Let me know if you have any ideas for 8 second empathy promotion videos. You just create a prompt and the AI creates a video for it.
B. We need your application for the Oct Summit.
https://www.empathysummit.com/dates/oct-4-2025-movement
Topic: tbd
9:xx am - Speaker: Johanna (Jodie) Madsen Jensen (15 min)
Bio: Jodie is an empathy researcher at Brigham Young University. (LinkedIn) (Facebook) (Website)
Topic:
Abstract:
C. Do you have any suggestions for Empathy Definition Next Steps?
I thought next week I could go over my Slideshow and record it together
the parts are;
1. the Wholistic Empathy Circle Model
1. Basic Empathy
2. Self-Empathy
3. Imaginative Empathy
4. Wholistic Empathy
2. The Cognitive/Affective Empathy Model - How this model maps onto Wholistic Empathy Model
1. Cognitive Empathy
a. Understanding
b. Perspective Taking
c. Imagination
d. Identifying With
e. Projection
f. Without necessarily sharing or experiencing those emotions oneself
2. Affective Empathy
a. Emotion Sharing
i. State matching
ii. Emotional contagion
iii. Union or Fusion
b. Emotional Reactions
i. Personal Distress - Feeling distress at witnessing another person's suffering
ii. Feeling Sympathy - feeling sorry for the person.
iii. Empathic Concern/Empathic Compassion - A feeling of worry or anxiety for another
iv. Any Reaction - Joy, Anger, Fear, Sorrow,
Do you have any other subheadings to post under Cognitive Empathy and Affective Empathy?
D. For the definition project do you have any specific project you want to work on and present?
How are you at creating workshop curriculum? I think we could create a training on the definition and it be something we can charge for. It would also create a continuous improvement cycle.
The more I dig into it, the more I see how dysfunctional the Cognitive Empathy and Affective Empathy is.